In this episode of Coffee with Carriers, Adam Mathis, President of Small to Mid-Market, sits down with John Chabot, Vice President of Sales for Surest, a UnitedHealthcare company. They discuss the cost and complexity challenges facing employers and their employees, and how Surest's copay-only plan design takes a different approach. Jon also shares how the product reaches the market through broker partners, what the member experience looks like, and where the Surest app is headed next.